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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 9, 2004 7:14:51 GMT -5
After stumbling across the website that is www.mididb.com, I am contemplating including a plethora of songs that should be easily recognizable to just about everyone. Using Valhalla's midi to RPGM2 music script maker, I could feasibly put just about any song in my game. Before doing that, however, I want to be sure that it is not considered a bad idea. Of course, I would try to keep songs in appropriate areas, and I would include music from a variety of genres. Let me know what you think.
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Post by Dungeon Warden on Nov 9, 2004 15:26:06 GMT -5
Some special theme music for bosses and special events might be cool. Remember that using music during actual game play will cause the music to stop everytime a content script runs or the player opens a menu. It is better to use custom music during cut-scenes. Other than that, if the music fits, use it.
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Post by Jugem on Nov 9, 2004 15:45:41 GMT -5
Depends on the music, and if it would fit where you'd like to put it. I think if you do this very sparingly (maybe even only at one key time in the game), it could have a great effect. But if you start including too much modern music, it will start to lose its effect.
And DW's point about using custom music during gameplay is also important to keep in mind. I would think using such music during cutscene(s) is better than using it during gameplay anyway.
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 9, 2004 15:47:13 GMT -5
Yeah, that was my basic plan. My CBS is going to be made entirely through action scripts, so I should be able to have custom songs playing during battles without having to worry about them being interrupted. Cutscenes are another area that I have considered adding them, as well as some mini-games, since I should have a lot of control over what is going on in these areas. Vespuleth gave me a rather clever idea that just might allow me to include custom music on regular maps, too, but I want to test it out before I claim that it works.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Post by Jugem on Nov 9, 2004 15:48:57 GMT -5
Vespuleth gave me a rather clever idea that just might allow me to include custom music on regular maps, too, but I want to test it out before I claim that it works. It's not the VFX idea, is it? And if not, now I'm curious...
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 9, 2004 15:50:16 GMT -5
Indeed, it's not the VFX at all. I want to test it out and talk to him before I go giving away his secrets, though . ;D
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Post by Jugem on Nov 9, 2004 15:56:50 GMT -5
Alright. I've tried thinking of so many ways to accomplish this, that I can't imagine there being something I haven't thought of. But I sure hope I'm wrong. Good luck!
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Post by vespuleth on Nov 9, 2004 17:05:58 GMT -5
doan, hit me up on aim tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2004 17:09:32 GMT -5
I think it'd be bad if it was recognizable (like Aeris' theme for say) because it would distract people from your game for a moment, but if it's something people won't recognize that's better.
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Post by Jugem on Nov 12, 2004 14:36:18 GMT -5
Still waiting for any news... Have you tried this out yet Doan? And if not, would you care to share the idea vespuleth? Maybe I could try it out as well.
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Post by vespuleth on Nov 13, 2004 1:07:46 GMT -5
custom music is fine, so long as it fits the game. not necessarily in reference to age, but in mood. in other words, dont have rock playing during a 'sad' or 'emotional' moment. unless of course its a power ballad.
edit: i want to talk to doan first about it. in the next couple of days, ill spill the beans...
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 15, 2004 16:00:13 GMT -5
Sorry to keep you waiting on this, Jugem. Like ves said, I'm going to talk to him about it, and as soon as tomorrow I will try to create some scripts to implement this technique to see how (and if) it works.
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Post by The Final Rune on Nov 15, 2004 16:04:53 GMT -5
I wanted to do the same thing for my game, untli that is I started converting some of the MIDIs I wanted to use. Thousands upon thousands of lines of script just for one killer song! No way, I'll just use multiple tempos and pitch variations on the default music thanks. If I use any custom music it will be for small stuff, like fan fare or rest at an INN tunes.
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 15, 2004 16:43:31 GMT -5
The thing is, a lot of the note sequences are repeated, and if you can find the repeated sequences, you can make a separate script for them and call them when they are needed. This will cut down on memory usage and script creation time. That's the only way I'll be able to do it.
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Post by NASH7777 on Nov 20, 2004 7:43:38 GMT -5
I think having some modern music would be okay, but only if it pertained to the area /scene/game in some way. If it doesn't fit the theme then don't bother but if it adds to the Mood then ;D
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Post by Jugem on Nov 25, 2004 14:39:41 GMT -5
Any update?
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 29, 2004 19:26:07 GMT -5
Tomorrow, Jugem, tomorrow. For real this time.
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Post by Aaron on Nov 30, 2004 3:42:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry that I didn't post when I voted a while back. I think that it wouldn't bother me, but I wouldn't recommend it. I don't have the game in front of me playing it either. I'd speculate that if the game is solid, it won't matter. Just my two pennies.
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 30, 2004 3:50:32 GMT -5
I mainly planned on using some songs that have been hits in the past, such as:
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train Bush - Machinehead Linkin Park - One Step Closer Busta Rhymes - Turn It Up/Fire It Up
I want to include a variety of songs that everyone would like and use them in battles as the background music. Perhaps it would only be in boss battles, I haven't really decided that yet. I went through mididb.com and listened to a range of midis to see if any would fit as a battle theme, and those are some of the ones I thought sounded good. I have others in mind, but I don't want to give them all away.
These may not even make it into my feature project, due mainly to memory constraints, but if I have an entry in contest #3, I may try to get them in there.
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Post by Aaron on Nov 30, 2004 3:54:48 GMT -5
There you go. That sounds good to me, I thought you were going to have custom music all the time. I was actually thinking of writing some some on my guitar and using them for certain things in my game.
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Post by Doan the Nado on Nov 30, 2004 19:21:23 GMT -5
I have finally tried it out, Jugem, and I am excited to say that it works flawlessly! I will make a post in the RPGM2 Technical Help forum right away to say how I did it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2004 19:56:49 GMT -5
Hey Aaron, I've been doing that too! What I was thinking of doing for mine was (since RPGM2's SFX sound pretty bad) making a character play a solo acoustic performance of a song he'd made (aka a song by me on guitar). It'd be like a one time private action scene with one or two songs. I'll most likely be trying this with any extra memory I may have. I wouldn't mind typing up tabs and trying to record myself playing if you'd want to use them (since I won't use that many) of the songs I've made (just guitar). "I want to include a variety of songs that everyone would like and use them in battles as the background music. Perhaps it would only be in boss battles, I haven't really decided that yet. I went through mididb.com and listened to a range of midis to see if any would fit as a battle theme, and those are some of the ones I thought sounded good. I have others in mind, but I don't want to give them all away." Oooooh!! Trust me, go listen to Get it Faster by Jimmy Eat World, and if you like that check out Just Tonight, Hear You Me, and more from them. Trust me on Get it Faster, it'd be perfect for a scary boss. But you better put them in the credits!! ... Edit: Oh yeah, for downloads of Get it Faster they may be missing the (about) minute-long intro (which is sets the mood and is the best ;D), so keep looking till you get the whole intro. I'll go looking for a good site and come place and come back and post a link. I expect the quality not to be that good though, so it'd sound much, much better off the Bleed American Album, Believe in What You Want DVD, or live in concert, at least that is if it's an MP3. EDIT: Check this out too. EDIT: I couldn't find any with the intro. Just go buy the album. Trust me!!
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Post by The Final Rune on Dec 7, 2004 15:40:28 GMT -5
I've found a great MIDI site for anyone wanting MIDI's from most any famous game on any system. Check it out here: www.vgmusic.com
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2004 19:11:59 GMT -5
Wow!!! That site's awesome. I may even consider using some. Although, I'd try to use less notable ones. I checked out the three tactics ogre:LUCT ones and the soft one they have's really great. It's too bad that if it's recognizable people'llrecognize it. No!!!
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Post by vespuleth on Dec 8, 2004 19:30:22 GMT -5
thats why editing is good. put your personal touches to it, and modify it until its not so noticeably stolen.
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