Lookie what I've got

[Bigfoot]

Let me give you a hint, its not a PS2 or Gamecube.

[NASH7777]

I suggest you throw it out the window this minute...then again I'm biased...*sigh*

[Bigfoot]

I too am biased... against PS3. Sony only boasts crap I don't give a about, like how it can run in 120 fps, more than the human eye can tell. Oh, and the fake graphics are lame as well.

I think I will also get a Revolution then skip out on PS3 this generation, I could barely afford a 360. How in the hell could I afford a PS3.

And oh yeah, RPGM4 is rumoured to be for 360, so hooray!

[Hedrum]

Let me give you a hint, its not a PS2 or Gamecube.

You have a TV! Whoa! That's amazing!

And oh yeah, RPGM4 is rumoured to be for 360, so hooray!

Uhhh...

[Bigfoot]

maxeross said:

You have a TV! Whoa! That's amazing!

Well since you noticed, here are some pics of my.... TV!







And another 360 pic.

[manji]

bigfoot721 said:

And oh yeah, RPGM4 is rumoured to be for 360, so hooray!

where'd that rumor come from? because if it comes out on only one system, i'd have to seriously consider getting an xbox for that reason alone.

[doyleman]

rpgmmag's issue awhile back

[Doan the Nado]

If RPGM4 only came out for the 'Box, I would definitely have to not buy it, because I am pretty much through with supporting Microsoft.

[manji]

for me, it would be less about supporting microsoft and more about supporting the rpg maker series.

[Doan the Nado]

Yeah, but that would involve buying XBox, which I would not do, unless they are selling it for less than cost and I can convert it into a sweet computer, thereby actually hurting them. Someone was actually doing this a few years ago with XBox, converting it into a full-blown desktop system by basically commandeering the hardware in order to convert it into an ordinary computer. I'm willing to bet that Microsoft has taken steps to prevent this with the 360, however.

[BloodKnight]

IT'S A POWER BRICK!

bigfoot721 said:

I too am biased... against PS3. Sony only boasts crap I don't give a about, like how it can run in 120 fps, more than the human eye can tell. Oh, and the fake graphics are lame as well.

Well with Microsoft screwing the japanese, pleasuring the states, and overall having a mediocre launch/launch games/game system, I think I can deal with that in favor of a much better launch from the PS3. I'm personally getting a Rev.

[Bigfoot]

With opinions over Microsoft set aside, I hope the RPGM series debuts on this system. Since Xbox Live is easily the best online service of all consoles, and it can release downloadable content, and you could play custom soundtracks on your game too. There are just so many possibilities for the series to expand.

[Deleted]

I'm gonna wait until 2-4 years after they come out in the US because:

1) Price will be cheaper
2) Less likely to get a defective machine (PS2 Disc Read Error!!! , and I've heard a lot about the first batch of X Box 360s and PSP's being defective too)
3) More games out, thus a better understanding of which one to get
4) Now's the time to buy really cheap PS2's, X Box's, and Gamecube's (whichever you don't already have) (I just got a GC about a month ago
5) Most games will only improve graphically from the transition, which I can't imagine anyone being unhappy with most PS2/X Box/GC games' graphics

[vespuleth]

if you really want to get away from microsoft, you could start running one of the many distros of linux. they really arent as hard to run as most people say, and the best way to get more software support for them is to begin using them. on a side note, i started using openbsd (3.8; i havent upgraded to 3.9) a little while back, and am loving it. the hardest thing to do so far has been getting my all in one printer to work. (for all of these alternative os's, you sometimes have to write your own drivers and such, but they are really easy usually, or someone else may have already done it and put it on the net, so you can just google it).

[NASH7777]

Or a much better alternative than Ves' suggestion would be a Mac :-)

[takisu]

Your a Mac-aholic Nash!

[Doan the Nado]

The downside of Macs is their lack of compatability with much software. The beauty of Linux systems is that the programming community has embraced them, and you can find a program to do just about anything you want written for a Linux OS. And if you can't find what you want, you can write it, and everyone will love you. I really intend on switching to some Linux system over the summer; I just haven't taken the time to do it yet. It's starting to get a little annoying to have to log in to the Computer Science department's Unix servers every time I want to do any sort of programming.

[vespuleth]

i have about a million that are emailable, doan, if you want one. i also have dvd/cd versions of the newest mandriva and fedora distros, along w/ a few others. i really liked fedora when i was running linux (im running openbsd now... which is awesome).

and i agree w/ doan on this one. macs are cool, but they dont have the universal compatability that linux/unix based os's (the bsd os also is unix based). anything thats proprietary is probably worth avoiding...

[NASH7777]

Actually mac's are the most universally compatible computer around. The operate well with Japanese and any other language, also interfacing between computers of other countries and stuff is a breeze. It's the whole mac/windows relation that sucks balls. But I have a windows emulator on my computer, just runs things slow. Honestly other than games I have had no app I've needed that I don't have something for my Mac. Movies, Music, Photos, Messenger, Net, Programming all work fine and easy (and look better) on my mac.

Plus one thing I've never undertsood is how come search engines on Windows is soooo dang slow?!?! There a text based language, they should be fast, it's mac that's a graphic based one. But now even especially with the latest OS on my Mac, as soon as I start typing in a search, things that apply start showing up. I go to my friends who have a BRAND NEW Windows and there searches take so long they don't even use the function.

[thetruecoolness]

Looks like someones been buying a bit too much into Macs new commercials. Mac support for Java is atrocious at best, so there is one reason I won't use it (just to provide an example of one thing it doesn't integrate with so well that other OSes do). Having to upgrade you're OS just to get the latest version of Java is ludicrious, as it works fine on pretty much every OS but Mac, so I would argue it is not universally compatible. Plus I loved how installing Macs version of Java will not update any system variable for you so you have to go find where it installed it and make paths to it. Even Microsoft gave up trying to control Java long ago and allow it to be truly portable. Of course why Mac has to have their own installer instead of using one from sun's site is beyond me since supposedly Mac has a UNIX backend now. Of course for programming I still use Windows as Visual Studio is pretty good for C++/C, and eclipse works on any platform so I got Java covered as well, though if I ever get an Http server up and running it will definitly be Linux..

So now Macs might be great for some things but they still have their flaws and are by far the most proprietary of all the OSes, though they have given into Intel I doubt anytime soon will the level of customazability reach that of PCs. So I'm sure Mac does somethings right, since people keep telling me it does, but for now I'll stick with good old Windows 2000, and might switch over to Linux once I figure out how to get my games to work on it, and get a Windows like browser that I can customize with links to important drives. So for now I've learned enough about the internals of windows to customize it to my liking, and organize my things in a way I don't really ever need to search. And you can make windows searching faster if you enable Indexing, but that also constanly scans your harddrive while you are working putting more stress on it, which is what I assume Mac does by default, though admittely they probably also use a better search algorithm as almost anything would be better than windows default search.

As for the 360 and all the other systems I will be waiting a year or two like I always have before buying one. The revolution looks like the most promising to me at this point. Though sony has done a lot of crap they still have the most series I enjoy on their system, so 360 will be last on my list. Hopefully I'll have a good enough Job I can get all 3.

[NASH7777]

Java updates automatically for me and I've had no problem with it. And although I've seen the new commercials, I've enjoyed the Mac's universal compatibility long before that. Surfing japanese websites and having it be translated for me. Or writing in english and having it change into actual Japanese characters. I have the Unicode for soooo many languages and symbols on my comp it's crazy. Sometimes I just have fun going through them and finding ones I like. My comp is fast, pretty, does most everything I need it to, easy interface, speedy search, and tons of cool little features and add-ons. Too be honest the old Mac OS look was ugly, back with classic. OSX is so sharp and pretty, it's that clean crips feel that I get from certain things that I really like. Like Worm's 3D type look.


Or the iPod look


Or even the PSP(even though it's black it uses that crisp fresh feel)

[takisu]

Wow, back to XBOX 360....I played Oblivion at my friends house last week and the game was really cool so I sorta like the 360. Just putting my 2cents in.

[vespuleth]

i have to side w/ ttc here... mac is the most proprietary system available, which makes it atrocious for freelance developers. it also does handle the java environment horribly, another fault for freelance developing (java is making huge headway in the development world these days... only about 7 years after i expected it to).

ive heard rumors that the new mac os is going to be linux based, so we will see how that pans out.

[Doan the Nado]

I'm not a Windows fan, but it's not really fair to compare OSX to XP because OSX came out much more recently. Of course it's going to better reflect modern trends and be more intuitive than the current Windows version is. As for Linux, I just think it will be nice to have an OS that I am in complete control of. I still don't know exactly what goes on in my Windows system when I install a program, what with all the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE crap or whatever that is.

I'm not trying to bash OSX. I know it has some great features, a cool, intuitive look, and a bunch of other elements that make it a great OS. I've just heard too many, "Man, I wish I could see/play that on my Mac." and "Do they have a Mac version?" Even once I switch to Linux, I will still keep some hard drive space for Windows since so many mainstream programs and games are written for it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Ves, didn't mean to ignore you. I actually have a Linux distro that I got from one of OSU's Open Source Club meetings. It's called Ubuntu, and from what I've heard, it's a pretty good distro. If not though, it seems another good thing about Linux is that the files are not tied to the OS the way they are in Windows, and it is relatively easy to change your OS (or your Linux distro) without having to back up every file on your computer first.

[vespuleth]

yeah, ubuntu is supposed to be pretty good. its what the mythological google os is based on.