Strange ABS Problem

[Neo Samurai]

Recently, I started making an ABS. So far, I've only got my character's attack done. Everything works fine, except I have 2 problems. First, and chief of them all, everytime I attack the enemy, rather than being pushed 1 space back, it keeps going in the direction I indicate until it bumps into an object.

The second doesn't bother me as much, but I'd like to fix it. When I hit the enemy, it's supposed to flash red. It usually works, but it doesn't when the enemy is between me and an object (ex. a mountain). I'll provide the scripts if anyone wants to help. I hate having to ask for help, but these problems have gone beyond my head.

"Enemy Hit" Script

Event Control: Change the Target to [Enemy 1]
Event Control: Event Info Load
Data: Variable: [Enemy Number]=1
Script: Call [Check 4 Hit]
Event Control: Change the Target to [Enemy 2]
Event Control: Event Info Load
Data: Variable: [Enemy Number]=2
Script: Call [Check 4 Hit]
(Repeat this for Enemies 3-10)


"Check 4 Hit" Script

Data: Game Info: Load
Script: Call [East Hit]
Script: Call [Southeast Hit]
(Well, all the compass directions! )
Script: Call [Hit!]
Script: Call [Damage!]
Data: Flag: [Hit!]=Off

(Note: The compass direction hit scripts check to see if what direction my character is facing and if the enemy is in the proper coordinates. They work fine, but if you believe you'll need them, I'll provide them.)


"Hit!" Script

Script Control: Apply Together
Data: Variable: [Member Number]=[Enemy Number]
Data: Member Info: Load
SB: Condition: Flag [Hit!]=On
SB: Condition: Flag [NormalFlag0]=Off
SFX: [Crush]
Event Effects: Color Change 5F
Effect: [Hit] Event
SB: Condition: Variable: [PartyDir]=0
Event Movement: Direction: Face Leader
Event Movement: Direction Movement: E 1 Space Facing=Fixed 5F
SB End
(Repeat for other directions)
Event Effects: Default Color 5F
SB End
SB End
Script Control: Apply In Order

(Note: If you haven't figured it out all ready, I'm using blank Party Members to keep track of my enemies, such as their HP and Attack. The Hit! Flag checks if my character hit the enemy with his weapon successfully. I use the NormalFlag0 to see whether the enemy is dead or alive (The flag is on if the enemy is dead).)


Like I said, I hate asking people for help. I like doing things on my own. But this has gone way beyond me.

Edit: Damn, I posted this in the wrong forum. Doan, ves or Nash, could you move this to the Technical Help forum?

[NASH7777]

"First, and chief of them all, everytime I attack the enemy, rather than being pushed 1 space back, it keeps going in the direction I indicate until it bumps into an object. "

Suprisingly I've had this problem before and I honestly wish I recalled how I fixed it...
Ok I'm not 100% sure, but I think this is how it worked out when I did:

The problem was that I was moving the event in the attack script while what worked is when I moved the event in it's own script, To do this make an attack variable called 'attack type' when you attack an opponent, load this into the event's own "att by type" variable that each will have. Then in the event I'm sure you have something similiar to this but adjust accordingly.

load enemy data stuff~
Apply together
call enemy attacks
call enemy effects
event movement to party blah blah

Now the enemy effects is what we're gunna mess around with in here it will be a constant loop to see if their att by variable has changed to something past 0. If it has have each different value do something different 1 move them up right, 2right, etc... whatever you want. You can also set other effects like such as on fire where you do a fire effect on them and randomly move them about for so many steps or whatnot, actually in one of my games the entire damaging scripting is in this and I just have proper variables such as dmg # and stuff loaded in.

I hope this will not only fix your problem but open up some new options into your game.

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Now for #2 I need more info to work with your problem, can you be more specific, is the event one step away?, can't you see the animation because they are behind a transparent object, will my thing above if you put flashing in there help?

[gangstahfolife]

Wow, you guys are great with scripting! Sorry, but I can't help you Dark Samurai, I'm still a noob here.

[Neo Samurai]

Now for #2 I need more info to work with your problem, can you be more specific, is the event one step away?, can't you see the animation because they are behind a transparent object, will my thing above if you put flashing in there help?

Here's an example.
My character is on X=3, Y=2
The enemy is in X=4, Y=2
The object is in X=5, Y=2.

My character is facing east, looking at the enemy and attacks. Rather than flashing red, the enemy stays the same color. Now the "Hit" VFX I made (which is some blue fireworks) and the SFX works and the movement doesn't need to work since it wouldn't be possible for the event to move any further. However, the flash doesn't work.

[NASH7777]

IDEA: Because the event doesn't move it doesn't execute the flashing of the event since the script can't for moving can't be complete. Put the flashing before the moving maybe. Not sure but ya never know.

[Neo Samurai]

Yes, but the problem is that the flashing command is before the moving.

I tried your idea to put the movement script in the enemy event itself. However, this time, the event didn't move, flash, and the VFX didn't activate. Then, when the enemy died, the Death VFX appeared, but it began to move across the screen until it hit an object like before.

You think maybe if I tried the first idea (my idea) and made the event step 1 step back, but then, step forward, it would cancel the prolonged movement? Seems like my best bet.

Edit:

For example, let's say I'm facing the East when I attack the enemy. The enemy would step 1 space to the East, then step 1 space to the West.

[Neo Samurai]

All right. I did what I mentioned above, but it did what I feared. It still kept on stepping until it touched an object and then, it stepped back towards me. I'm going to try something else later, but if anyone has any other ideas to solve my problem, please tell me.

Thank you for your help so far, Nash.

[Doan the Nado]

There's got to be a loop somewhere causing that step to occur over and over, or perhaps it's a problem with Apply Together/Apply In Order. I really have no idea, but I just thought I'd try to give you some more ideas for places to look.

[Deleted]

Does the enemy move back way quicker than he's supposed to? When I was making the scene in The Solemn Truth where all the soldiers run to the castle at the same time (you can see it in the video), the eighth or ninth event would suddenly shoot across the whole map for no reason; I figured it just couldn't handle giving movement commands to eight or nine plus events at once. Though, it seems to me too like there's some repeat or oddity in RPGM2 with Apply Together causing your problem.

[Neo Samurai]

Yes, TST. I think that is the problem. I realized this last night when I was trying to fix the movement problem.

Also, I figured out the reason why the enemy didn't flash red when the enemy was between me and an object. Since I had Applied Together the script and the event disregarded the movement script because it couldn't move any further, the Color change command and Default command cancelled each other out (since they both had operated at 5F).

I was going to drop the movement all together, but you gave me an idea, TST. Perhaps the Apply Together is the problem. I'm going to try placing an Apply in Order command after the enemy turns red. If that doesn't work, I may just have to drop the movement.

Thank you, TST.

[Neo Samurai]

I finally realized what the problem with the enemy movement was. I turned off the event action movement, and the event finally moved only 1 space rather than across the screen.

So, in order to fix this problem, I'll need to shut off the event action. In other words, using the Duplicate event erase trick that Nash invented, I might be able to fix the problem.

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'm getting closer to fixing this problem once and for all.